tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6508200033145514208.post4671182595375457975..comments2023-11-02T07:50:10.030-04:00Comments on LFBall On Hoops: Monday's Thoughts......FDU &SHUUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6508200033145514208.post-63781561772590268712009-09-22T01:02:00.916-04:002009-09-22T01:02:00.916-04:00LF, I'm confused. You said that Tom Green was...LF, I'm confused. You said that Tom Green was an "Outstanding Coach". Where is your evidence to back it up? Just because someone lets you into their practice doesn't mean they are a good coach. Also, 1 former on your staff in 26 year is flat out horrible. Again Tom Green's record was barely over 500% and he averaged only 15 wins a year. Just to provide an example Dean Smith whom I consider an outstanding coach averaged 24 wins a year in a tough conference. The Northeast conference was horrible for most of his tenure. The last time I saw FDU play was a home beating back in the mid 90s to Davidson. Davidson was decent program back then and you saw an outstanding coach in Bob Mckillop beat a mediocre coach.<br /><br />One thing I want to backtrack. I said Tom was horrible to his players and that was a little too strong. I have heard stories but it's basically hearsay. Maybe JimmyHoops has more direct insight which I would love to hear. This I know for sure however. Outside of wins and losses Tom Green had little use for his players. The coaches I classify as outstanding took their responsibility not only to develop better basketball players but also better students and better men. Tom Green would never fit in that category for me. Since 99% of college basketball players will never earn a living playing basketball it important that coaches develop better men and better students as part of their job responsibilities. The best at this I believe are John Wooden, Dean Smith, Coach K and John Thompson. <br /><br />It's funny what Jimmyhoops said about the recruit being called after the player had verbally committed to a mid-major school. I wonder if its the same player. The player who also told me the same story. The player told me that Tom and has assistant were nasty and trying to put him down as a player. They just wanted to take out their frustration I guess for seeing countless number of area players dismiss them after getting bad vibes. <br /><br />Tom's problem is that he would contact the local high school coaches for players who would never consider FDU ever. Then when local coaches called about two/three star players who coaches thought could play at the next level he refused to listen. It was just weird. <br /><br />This is my last post because I don't want to start a Tom Green bash fest. I just can't let anyone classify Tom Green as an outstanding coach without throwing my two cents.Portsidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10251311647548854030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6508200033145514208.post-73881217056695602902009-09-20T13:52:27.200-04:002009-09-20T13:52:27.200-04:00@Portside--
Dimari Riddick was a former player wh...@Portside--<br /><br />Dimari Riddick was a former player who served as an assistant under Coach Green.nickfdu22https://www.blogger.com/profile/02931699046886830591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6508200033145514208.post-74399363454563299522009-09-20T08:17:07.836-04:002009-09-20T08:17:07.836-04:00Wow!!!!!!!!!!!
Though I do agree with the reachin...Wow!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><br />Though I do agree with the reaching out stuff and community relations or lack of, I think Tom was a very good coach. maybe Great was the wrong term. I know Tom Green very well and have been to his practices. I am far from an expert but what In saw in him as a coach was very good. And I have been to manyb colleges watching practice. As far as the way hetreaated players? This is somthing I did not know nor see during my many years living in the area and attending FDU games and knowing coaches there. I NEVER HEARD that he was not nice to players! I did hear he was cheap with the gear and even had lots of sneakers in his home never used and turning color lol. But bad treatment of kids? Never heard that! <br /><br />FDU is a hard job at this time. But with the right person it could be one of the great mid major jobs. But as I said, they first must address facility issues and get a better committment from the University administration. <br /><br />Thanks to both of you for the well thought out comments. They are much appreciated.LFBallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00156215644364582419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6508200033145514208.post-43946752328276962182009-09-19T11:04:44.862-04:002009-09-19T11:04:44.862-04:00I would bet Tom Green's termination had to do ...I would bet Tom Green's termination had to do more with code of conduct and behavior issues. I have no info that would back that up. Tom being dismissed is the middle of summer just smells of something other than wins or loses. I heard stories from people he recruited over the years. One told me that FDU recruited him hard and early going into his senior year but big times schools started to get invloved. So FDU backed off and had little to no contact. He then signed with a solid mid major school. Tom and his assistant called him and told him that he just made a mistake and he could never play there. This all after he verbally committed and was going to sign his letter of intent. This all after FDU had no contact with for weeks and knew they had no shot to sign him. <br /><br />LF, I would disagree with your championing Tom Green a great coach. A great creep is more like it. I have heard stories from players at FDU that would make you sick.jimmyhoopshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15140005564350352152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6508200033145514208.post-9647065435463623012009-09-15T13:01:40.048-04:002009-09-15T13:01:40.048-04:00LF, I have to give you grief about your praise of ...LF, I have to give you grief about your praise of Tom Green as an "OUTSTANDING COACH". I think your compass is way off on this one. Tom had 407 wins in 26 seasons. That averages 15 a year. That's 15 wins a year in a conference where 2/3 of the teams in the Northeast Conference were for the most part consistently horrible for the better part of his tenure. The only thing more horrible that Tom Green's comb-over was the way he treated his players and how stupid he was for never trying to establish relationships with local high school coaches. You can probably count on one hand in the 26 years Tom was at FDU the local players that went there. When I say local players I mean kids from Bergen County. Most knew after any interaction with him thay should stay away.<br /><br />The ultimate measure of a good college program to me is the amount of ex-players involved with the program. Again, I can't think of one ex-player that was on the FDU staff in those 26 years. When I see UConn, I think the same thing. Why are there no ex UConn players on Calhoun's staff? Calhoun's is a notorious jerk and the fact that none of his former players appear not to want to be around him speaks volumes. How depressing must have been in the Big East tournament to have all the Syracuse crew sitting behind the bench. I then look behind the UConn bench and see no one. Where was Taliek Brown, Cliff Robinson, Kevin Freeman etc. That's why when I see Syracuse, Duke, BC-I know Al Skinner has 2 of ex R.I. players coaching with him and Mike Brey has a few ex-players on his staff. I think more kids should use that as one of their top priority when choosing a school.<br /><br />Getting back to Tom Green. FDU could do better, the community and so could college athletics. Remember this guy probably applied for every mid-major head coaching job that came up over his 26 years and I think only made a short list once. Again, that should tell you something.Portsidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10251311647548854030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6508200033145514208.post-74351649661858440012009-09-15T12:56:47.470-04:002009-09-15T12:56:47.470-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Portsidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10251311647548854030noreply@blogger.com